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Meet UCSD's New Chancellor

October 11, 2004

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Marye Anne Fox officially took the helm of UCSD on Aug. 16. Here, she sits down for a video Q & A with Kate Callen to discuss the current state of the university and what she hopes to accomplish during her tenure as chancellor of UCSD.

Q. In your view, what are UCSD's institutional strengths, and how will you capitalize on them?

Fox: UCSD, from its founding, has had nothing but the best of faculty, staff, and students. When you bring really bright and creative people together in an environment where they can excel, it's no surprise that it's become one of the best institutions in the country.

Q. Conversely, what are UCSD's biggest problems, and how will you try to resolve them?

Fox: I think [in terms] of challenges and opportunities rather than problems. This is an institution which is going along pretty well as it is. But the opportunities that it can confront are really exciting. First of all, geographically, we're placed in a position where we can reach out to the Pacific Rim countries or to South America and Mexico. We have an opportunity of collaborating within the UC system and with our sister schools around the nation that's unparalleled. We have opportunities because of our students and the strengths and creativity that they bring to many problems, of making significant contributions, and thinking of scholarship and research as a public trust. When you integrate all of that, we are going to transform the lives of our students and change the standard of living around the world.

Q. How will you keep the lines of communication open with faculty, students and staff?

Fox: I think it's very important to have lots of ways by which that communication can start. First, of course, students, faculty and staff can use e-mail to communicate their ideas at any stage. We're also having a series of discussions on campus where I'm giving time away from positions to come and learn and discuss. We're very excited about the possibility of building this community by building the associations that we have among faculty, students, and staff. One of the best ways to communicate with the Chancellor and with the administrative staff is to take advantage of the "Letters to the Chancellor" e-mail address at chancellor@ucsd.edu. It's really a great way to get your feelings and viewpoints and statements to the administration in a way in which we can really follow up.

Q. What do you enjoy most about teaching?

Fox: The one thing I miss as an administrator is not being able to teach as much as I used to be able to. I taught organic chemistry and graduate chemistry and occasionally a public policy or ethics course. The ability to interact with students who are at various stages of their educational development is really very, very stimulating and something I miss a lot.

Q. What do you enjoy most about interacting with undergraduates? And graduate students?

Fox: Undergraduates are still not defined in terms typically of where they want to go in life. So, the interaction is a much more personal one. When you get to graduate students, they have often chosen a career direction, and it's more mentoring and guiding them as they themselves become mature scientists or engineers. I have had the opportunity, of course, to work with both kinds of groups, and they are different but equally fascinating. I've had the privilege of having about 50 students who have finished advanced degrees under my direction, and at least once a year, I communicate with them. I often get notices from them about a job advancement or a new child or a new marriage. It's just wonderful to see the transition that they've made and remember how they used to be when they were still finding themselves in their careers, and where now many of them are leaders in their own careers in academic institutions or industry. I'm very proud of the fact that every one of my students who has wanted to pursue an academic career has been tenured. So, there are quite a few of them out there; they're like our extended family.

Q. Any views on strengthening the arts & humanities at UCSD?

Fox: One of the most important things that can transform the lives of our students is to be able to take what they learn in classes and in the laboratory and also in the theater and in athletics programs, whether it's personal or intercollegiate athletics, and to integrate that in a way in which their lives are changed. We're so proud that we have one of the best theatre programs in the nation. And I can see that there are going to be many applications of theater in terms of visual imaging that would overlap very strongly with some of the strong programs in computer science or the Supercomputer Center or Cal-(IT)². I can envision that, as the arts and the humanities come closer and closer to the sciences, that this bridge that has been sometimes hard to forge over the years, really will become easier and easier. And the emphasis on interdisciplinary studies and integrating knowledge over social problems and social concerns, I think that will make that an important part of anyone's education.

Q. UC has been struggling to build diversity in the aftermath of Proposition 209, which ruled out "affirmative action" programs. What has been your experience with affirmative action and diversity efforts?

Fox: I think the need for affirmative action continues because schools are not on a level playing field for everyone. So the long-term solution is certainly going to be outreach and improvement of educational opportunities for all students. If every group understood what opportunities exist and what they could do in terms of career opportunities going forward, I think we would have very little need to even be looking at racial or ethnic or religious differences. Those are qualities of the human experience, though, that really strengthen the education that we have. And to bring in all people, and to have the unique skills and talents and backgrounds that are brought from different religious or racial or ethnic backgrounds enriches all of us so much that it becomes a very important part of our community. So finding ways in which outreach can identify and motivate those who are coming through the high schools to be prepared better to take advantage of a UCSD education is really one of our most important goals.

Q. Have you had a chance to visit the Preuss School?

Fox: The Preuss School is really a great example of how outreach can improve the quality of lives of our students and the student body here. We've made a significant partnership with the San Diego schools so that there would be an opportunity for students who can take advantage, because of their talents and interests, of the kind of education that this unique school offers. And what we've seen in this first year of graduating students is that many, many students are qualified for the best colleges and university in the country, including a number of them who are going to come to UCSD.

Q. Many people have expressed concern that increased partnerships with the private sector could result in the tail (commerce) wagging the dog (scholarship). How do you prevent that?

Fox: Public universities are very important, of course, for the future of this country. And it's becoming increasingly difficult as state legislatures have fewer and fewer dollars, seemingly, to invest in higher education. So it's becoming even more important that partnerships with the private sector be explored as a way of extending the scholarship that would have taken place typically with federal and state support in earlier times. So when we have this private sector investment into our programs, they can only improve. We have, of course, the possibility of over-commitment of time or conflict of interest developing. But we've been able to put together a procedure that allows us to manage those potential conflicts very well, so that the benefits can be maintained and the downside can be constrained.

Q. What do you do for fun? What do you read for pleasure?

Fox: I'm a golfer; I'm not a very good golfer. I swim. Before I became full-time involved with administration, I used to swim a mile a day. But that's another one of those things that probably has gone by the wayside because of time demands. I enjoy reading. I enjoy film. Right now, at my bedside, there is a book by one of the faculty here who wanted to share with me her scholarship, as well as an autobiography of Benjamin Franklin. I tend to want to balance scientific readings with non-scientific readings. I try to keep up with my field, and in particular, science policy. At the same time, I enjoy things on the side.

Q. Did your family move with you?

Fox: Our sons are all married and off on their own, so in general, they live far away. I have one who is in Costa Mesa and is a chef starting a business, so we haven't seen him too often but certainly more frequently than we did when we were on the East Coast. I have one son in France, he and his wife have our oldest grandson, and, of course, because he's in Grenoble, we don't see him too often. Three of our sons are in Texas: one in Dallas who works for Texas Instruments, one in San Antonio who's a pharmacist, and one is still in medical school at the University of Texas at Houston.

Q. And you have a new grandson, born the day of your interview.

Fox: After I made the commitment to interview for the position as chancellor of UCSD, it turned out that my daughter-in-law went into labor that morning. Just as I was going up to interview, I got the word that she was going to have a caesarean and her baby was being born as I was talking. It was an interesting experience. Of course, any interview is an interesting experience, but to recognize that our second grandson was literally popping out just at that time was really interesting.

Q. How's your cat?

Fox: Our cat made the move fine across the country. He didn't come with us because we drove and we were advised by our friends in veterinary medicine back in Raleigh that driving a cat across the country was not advisable. So we made arrangements for the cat to fly. The cat arrived and immediately retreated, I think to punish us for not bringing him along. We were told that a cat will be stressed by an air trip and we shouldn't expect to see him because he would hide for a day, maybe even two days. But two days went by and three days and four days and five days - it wasn't almost until the morning of the sixth day after the cat arrived that he emerged. Then he just simply looked like he was a California cat who had lived here all his life, and thank you for being with him in the same house.

Q. Why do you spell "Marye" with an "e"?


Fox: My mother thought that Mary Anne was not a very distinguished name, so she spelled it in a strange way. But if you look carefully, there are Maryes spelled like that around. It's old English, but it also is the way that Marie Curie spelled her name. If you go on the Paris subway station, you'll see her signature written as "Marye Curie."

Q. How do you think UCSD needs to change?

Fox: UCSD needs to be open to change. There is never an end to changes and opportunities. If change stops, an organization stops growing, and if it stops growing, it retreats. And that's not in the vocabulary of UCSD. So change will be a constant for this institution. And the objective of that change is to keep us really at the cutting edge of scholarship, of practice, of performance excellence in the arts, of integration of the arts and sciences and engineering. And as that evolves, so too will our curriculum and our studies.

Q. Tell us about your experience of the Staff Appreciation Picnic, which you attended just as you were officially becoming Chancellor.

Fox: It was a wonderful day to have a Staff Appreciation Picnic. The staff are the people who keep this university running day after day. In many ways, the students are the goal of every university. We wouldn't be here were it not for the students. The faculty are the heart, because without their scholarship and the really creative insights that they bring, universities could not possible advance in the way that they have. The staff are the people that keep everything running. Without the staff, this university simply could not exist, much less be a place that's among the best in the world. So to come on the first day and have that opportunity to interact with the staff and say, "Thank you," in a very clear way was really a great thing for me. I was very pleased to do that. The staff love their jobs, they love UCSD, they love the interactions with the students, and they just wish that they'd be paid for it.

Q. How has raising five boys prepared you for this job?

Fox: I've said many times that anyone who raised five children is prepared for almost anything, chancellor or whatever career you want to address. We're a combined family, so three of the boys are my sons, and two are my stepsons. They were all raised through adolescence together, and they're as distinct as five individuals possibly could be. Their interests don't overlap very much, but they love each other, and they get along really well. In many ways, it's a composite of the kind of community that you try to develop at a university among students, staff, and faculty: everyone is different, everyone is essential, and everyone works together to build something that is bigger than themselves individually.

Q. Tell us about your interactions with students at N.C. State.

Fox: I used to meet about once a month with students at N.C. State where they would bring forward whatever their challenges were and celebrate some of their achievements. They used to call me "Ma Fox," as in M-A-Fox, so I guess in a way they felt that I acted in lieu of their parents. I remember one time one of the athletes got in trouble, and I went up to him - this was a basketball player who was about 6' 10" and 300 pounds - and I said, "Now, this was not something that was good for your career, it was not good for your status as a student, and it's not good for your aspirations as a professional athlete." And he said, "Yes, ma'am, my mama said the same thing." Another time, because of budget cuts, we tried to cut back the library hours and close the library at 2 a.m. instead of having it open all night. So the students decided to visit me at 2 a.m. when the library was closed. There were about 500 of them. And I came down, and I talked and talked and talked with them, and I think they got tired before I did.

Q. And you once had a karaoke outing with students; tell us about that.

Fox: The students in the University of North Carolina system have representation on the Board of Governors, and all the chancellors meet with members of the Board of Governors every time. We had a retreat one time, and I thought it was probably prudent to go with the students when they went to a karaoke bar so I could safely drive them back. I'm not a great singer, but the students had a great time.

Q. What are your early impressions of Triton athletics?

Fox: Triton athletics, I think, are a great, great part of life at UCSD. Competing at Division II has, I think, sharpened the focus. It allows students to be students first and athletes perhaps second, and to integrate student life with really quite challenging competition. So I'm very pleased with what I've seen of the athletic programs so far. I'm proud to be a follower of Triton athletics.

Q. What was your most significant contribution to NCSU's growth and reputation?

Fox: I would say it was putting together a long-range development plan that invested a billion dollars in facilities. Part of it was through political action; we had a bond issue passed that brought half a billion dollars to N.C. State. Part of it was forming partnerships with the private sector to improve the facilities that the students had and to have new ways in which collaboration could exist with private industry. That build-out is taking place right now. The Centennial Campus which houses these collaborations has grown from about 20 partners when I first went to N.C. State to about 60 as I left. The undergraduate students are having much better laboratories and classroom experiences as a function of the new facilities that have been constructed. So I'm very proud of that achievement that we've been able to do in changing the environment for the students there.

Q. Have you felt daunted by taking on a $1 billion capital campaign?

Fox: I'm not at all daunted by our capital campaign; I think, in fact, that we should plan to exceed the $1 billion mark. We had a capital campaign for $1 billion at N.C. State, and I left at about the same mark as where we are here. So, in a way, I personally have a challenge to get to a billion faster than N.C. State does.

Q. What kind of contribution would you like to make at UCSD?

Fox: I hope I can bring the various communities together and that we can together focus on innovation, international opportunities, and interdisciplinary activities that integrate education and really put us in a place were we are leaders in the world.

Q. What are some early impressions you've had about UCSD's friends and constituents?


Fox: I have been so impressed since arriving in San Diego. The people who have had no formal association with the university, as well as, of course, alumni, who have a strong association, are so supportive of the university and our objectives. Many people understand what's important in higher education. They understand the role that UCSD plays in improving the lives of people in the San Diego community and in California and in the nation. And they're willing to step up and help to be our partners when it's a key and important decision. So I'm grateful for the community that's developing here, internally and externally.


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